July 21, 2011

Concealed Carry Stops: Compare and Contrast

I won't surround these two videos with too many words. They speak volumes for themselves. The first is a dash-cam video of a stop made by a Canton, Ohio police officer of a person who has a concealed carry permit and is not given an opportunity to declare same in the wake of this cop's angry, intimidating tirade. This is well-documented and commented upon over at the Hot Air post done by Ed Morrissey. The policeman's behavior borders on the frightening:

This next video was provided by one of the Hot Air commenters and is of an Oceanside, California policeman stopping a person who is OPENLY carrying an automatic:

The contrast is stark; the Canton policeman not giving the CCW subject a chance to perform his legal obligation of informing the officer and the Oceanside policeman giving the young ex-Marine EVERY opportunity to cooperate with him. The second officer is a pinnacle of politeness and courtesy and respectfully -- but carefully -- elicits information during his stop. WHat reasonable citizen would NOT be willing to cooperate with this gentleman?

Read the Hot Air post and you will see that the Canton PD was embarrassed by this angry individual and placed him on immediate suspension while an investigation is carried out.



  1. Wow! My department would have fired the mouthy idiot from Canton just for the way he talked to people. The other officer would have been suspended and sent to re-training for his unsafe and improper search techniques.

    Believe it or not, there is a difference between officers with prior military and those who came straight from college with no life experience at all.

  2. B&R: I have been on the civilian end of a number of traffic stops and at no time have I been subjected to anything OTHER than the courtesy and respect shown by the Oceanside LEO.

    It is my fervent hope that they throw the book at this guy and he ends up a night watchman at a local fertilizer warehouse.

    And, yes, I know there is a difference. My youngest son, currently a LCPL in the USMCR is looking to enter law enforcement. and would, no doubt, comport himself with dignity.

  3. The first video, the officer is scary.

  4. ..again with the movie question, Supi: did you ever see the movie, The Bad Lieutenant?

    And, yes, that guy is terrifying. He belongs off the street and off the force.

  5. ..oh yes you have. You just watched 10 minutes of it up there.

  6. Huh. Another milblog that has this up has pointed out that the Canton officer is also a former Marine. Shot my theory all to hell.